As I've stated in other posts on my site, Versed was used (against my will) to knock me out so a total hysterectomy could be performed without my consent. Versed is also known as the 'date-rape' drug. It is used to make a person 'compliant' and induces 'conscious sedation'. It causes a person to 'not remember'. Versed rapes a person of their memory. It's a dangerous drug which is not in the best interest of patients.
Before you agree to hysterectomy or any surgery, you need to research this drug. I ran across a very informative blog about Versed shortly after my surgery in 2007 which I highly recommend you visit. The link for that site is www.nomidazolam.blogspot.com
You might also want to visit www.askapatient.com to read more about Versed. Ask-A-Patient is a site where patients write reviews about medications they've taken and they rate them based on their personal experience. My story is posted on the site along with many many others. I met a woman via this site who had a similar experience as me with Versed being administered prior to surgery without consent. Below is her story in her words.
I asked my surgeon 3 weeks before the surgery if I could have the Foley catheter placed while I was awake- he agreed. On the day of my surgery, I asked him again- he agreed. I asked the OR nurses if I could have the cath placed while awake- they all agreed, and one said she'd be the one to do it- it was fine with her.
The anesthesiologist was very snappy with me because I asked if I could keep my tongue jewelry in. She bossed me very rudely " Take it out now!" and the nurse explained that I wanted to keep it in until the very LAST possible moment (because tongue piercings can close very quickly). She said "The tongue ring comes out NOW!"
When the anesthesiologist said "I'll go get the goodies" and left the OR Prep room to get medication, another nurse asked me if I understood that one of the medications they would issue would cause amnesia- I asked if they could hold off on all medications until the catheter was placed- that I wanted to remember it. Every nurse in the room agreed. However, no one explained to me AT THAT TIME, that the medication would cause RETROGRADE amnesia. I don't even know if this is true.
When the anesethesiologist came back, the other nurses told her that I'd like to hold off on all medication until after the catheter was in. She walked behind me and started fiddling around with "something", as she rudely agreed to wait on the meds. She said in a way that frightened me "That is very unusual". I asked her if I had upset her and she said "No! Let's go! Let's do this!" very rudely.
I was immediately wheeled out of the room. Very quickly I started getting drowsy. I don't remember the trip to the OR. I have short snippets of memory- the feeling of being wheeled, waking up with my gown up and my legs open, the pain of the catheter insertion. I remember talking at times throughout this duration- trying to say that I shouldn't be feeling sleepy yet, asking why I was feeling drowsy.
However, I could not see straight, just bodies moving to the right of me and at my head, arms reaching toward me, people grabbing my legs etc. I kept drifting in and out of conciousness, I don't recall anyone answering my questions and my last memory is rolling my head to the right and giving up.
The next thing I remember is waking up (if you could call it that) in recovery, shivering, trying to sit up and talk. There were people talking around me, removing the EKG wires from my chest etc. I was trying to ask questions, and once again, I don't recall anyone responding to me.
They wheeled me to a regular hospital room. When I was able to see the clock, I noted the time, and asked for my husband who was in the waiting room. The nurse came back a while later and said that my husband was not in the waiting room. I began to cry for the next hour, confused and drowsy. Two more nurses who noticed said they'd try to find him.
Finally he came in an hour or an hour and a half later and said he'd been in the waiting room the entire time-asking about me at the desk. It turns out that they just didn't have my paperwork there yet, so my husbands name was never on the "To Page" list.
My surgeon didn't see me for 2 more days. I asked him why I wasn't awake for the cath insertion and he said that I was. He said he was there, I was awake, and talking. As the days go by, I realize that I am completely disappointed in my surgeon-who I really liked. I'm now realizing that he lied to me as well.
He told me that the Versed caused retrograde amnesia-implying that the drug wasn't administered until after the cath insertion, and I just didn't remember it because the amnesia was RETROGRADE. This is an obvious lie, as I REMEMBER fighting sleep, trying to talk, not being able to see straight, and waking up periodically during my move to the OR and the cath insertion. Why would I have an immediate realization that I was getting sleepy, if I wasn't even drugged yet?!
I requested the operative report, which stated that I was placed in a lateral decubitous with low lithotomy position. I am distressed by this as I did not know my legs would be open. I also did not know that they would "prep" my perenium before surgery.
My surgeon failed to tell me that he DEFINATELY WOULD be performing a cystoscopy (a camera up the urethra to view the bladder). I signed a paper that gave consent to perform one- but as I signed it, my surgeon told me that he would only do one in the event that he could not place the stent through the the incisions "sometimes it's difficult that way".
According to the operative report, he WAS able to place the stent through the incisions. He performed the cystoscopy to check the position of the stent after everything else was done. Why then, did he omit the fact that he would check the stent that way? Why do doctors try to hide what they do? I signed the freakin consent...why then not inform me about things happening TO me?!
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ReplyDeleteMatt, YOU obviously don't understand the word "retrograde". Versed isn't a "retrograde" amnesia drug, at least according to what medical personnel tell us. It's ANTEROGRADE amnesia which would mean, Matt, that the amnesia doesn't start until AFTER the injection. This woman has every right to be angry and upset at the lies and duplicity shown by her "team". The fact that you don't get it must mean that you LOVE poisoning people with Versed. Maybe you should have a psych. eval. before you are allowed out again.
ReplyDeleteYes, I have leapt to a couple of assumptions as to just who this Matt character is. I believe that he is a crna and that he loves Versed because it conceals his anti-social behavior from the patients. He is also suffering from the ABV syndrome. It can't be the Versed, it has to be anything but Versed.
ReplyDeleteVersed is the devil, and I hate it. I have had 2 experiences with it. The first I woke up on the table during a procedure, it was the stuff of nightmares. The second one was yesterday AFTER I TOLD MY DOCTOR NO VERSED. They don't listen and they don't care. I woke up AGAIN in procedure in excruciating pain. Why do they think this is an okay procedure? I am not letting him off the hook. That was deplorable.
ReplyDeleteSo sorry to hear about what happened to you via Versed. This is, of course, wrong on every level. What was done to you is not OK! What was done to me is not OK either... Versed does not have to be used and shouldn't be whenever a patient says NO. Absolutely agree with you that it is deplorable when patients are given Versed against their will.This should be criminal!
DeleteI'll die before i ever accept surgery. I was told they can do whatever they want. So I get ptsd from it! And its for my own safety. I'll be very angry if I ever get amnesia again!
ReplyDeleteI completely understand why you feel the way you do Chuck. I feel the same... I had never even heard of Versed before it was used to knock me out so surgery I didn't consent to could be performed. I will forever warn others about this drug now.
DeleteSuch petty problems you write about. I was just diagnosed with uterine cancer and I can't wait to get this damn thing out of my body. My uterus has betrayed me and now threatens my very life. I am 64 and only child of a 92 year old mother who needs me and a 64 year old husband who would be totally lost without me. What is all of this nonsense you write about? Do you want to be awake during surgery? Do you want to feel the pain of the procedure? Thank goodness you do NOT have cancer and the only thing you have to worry about is whether or not you can remember a foley catheter insertion. I am hard pressed to think of a less significant event in your life. I have inserted 100s of foley catheters into women. It is a very insignificant event in most everyone's life. Your postings are so ludicrous. I hope you live a long and healthy life with or without your uterus. I also hope someday soon you grow up. I'd gladly donate my uterus to you, if you wanted it.
ReplyDeleteThank you for commenting Lois E. Brenneman, MSN, FNP. You've completely validated the concerns expressed here.
DeleteLois you have completely missed the point. As expected by the stupid letters behind your name that you are so proud of. Why in the world does anybody need Versed for a foley insertion? You seem to think this is a big deal and that we shouldn't remember it, but on the other hand it's so insignificant. Which is it?
DeleteYes honey, I do want to remember the procedure. They have excellent regional anesthetic these days (maybe you aren't up to date on this?) which is preferable to sedation and/or general anesthetic. I want to be awake. I'm unconcerned with the foley insertion.
You say "do you want to feel the pain of the procedure?" Well, if the anesthesia provider can actually do their job properly, there is minimal pain. You aren't really trying to convince us that Versed offers pain relief are you? Versed only gives amnesia. (maybe) The patient will feel the pain but (perhaps) not remember that they were tortured and laughed at while writhing in pain and screaming. Get real.
My mental processes and emotional well being is of extreme importance to me. Obviously you feel disdain for that. You are sanguine about injecting Versed and scrambling people's brains for NO REASON. There is no reason for Versed other than convenience for the staff...which is against the law.
Your insufferable arrogance and complete disregard for patient suffering and the law is something which I have grown to expect from medical minions. They have trained you well. Only YOU have suffered, only YOU have family needs, only YOU have knowledge and so forth. There is a name for this disorder, which I'm sure you are aware of and refuse to see in yourself. I have read that people who suffer from this particular disorder are nearly impossible to treat, so I won't even name the mental disease. What a nasty evil woman you are my dear. Take your hate and eat it yourself.
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